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Blogging, General, Getting started in Voiceover, History, People

I wrote this past weekend about a note I had sent to Bonnie Gillespie, responding to her column about how sometimes bad news is really good news on hold. Bonnie writes a weekly column for Showfax.com called The Actors Voice. Bonnie is a casting director in Southern California and much of the time what she writes is specifically for actors living and working there in the film and television industry that’s centered in that part of the country. But, a great many of her comments apply to us in the voiceover world too.

Now, candidly, this post was sparked in large part because Bonnie provided a very nice comment and link pointing to this blog in the comments section (called Your Turn) at the bottom of today’s post. But, even if she hadn’t done so, I was going to write again about her column because as I’ve read through a good bit of her column archives, I’ve been hit between the eyes again and again. These are really valuable, and more importantly actionionable, suggestions and insights.

I’d like to offer you just one example, also linked from her comments section today. Read this column from earlier this year. When you’re done, come back here, OK?

Back? Good. Now, did you see how Bonnie drove her point home with the anecdotes about the two letters? One actor isn’t experiencing much success and the other is. The key difference? They both think they’re open to learn, but in truth, only one is. The secondary point? When we invest ourselves in others, we inevitably enrich ourselves in the process…and I don’t mean financially, or at least not just financially.

As I’ve written multiple times, and to further illustrate this second point, this is why there are links to other male voice-over artists here. In fact, if you count, there are more links to men than to women. And some of those links go to guys with voices that are pretty similar to mine. Guys who might be taking work away from me. Except, you see, they’re not. Everyone’s voice is distinct. When mine is exactly the right voice for the job, and I’m known to the people doing the casting, I get the job. Regardless of how many links I provide to other guys. And of course, if my voice isn’t right, I don’t. (And of course, if I’m not known to the people doing the casting, that’s my fault, not theirs.)

But, back to the primary point, about truly being open to learn. This means more than giving lip-service to learning. It means more than spending time and money taking classes, reading books, working on demos, etc. It means actually listening. It means living the conviction that there’s always something valuable to learn from any and every circumstance.

To further illustrate, I’ve attended The International Radio Creative and Production Summit every year since 1997. I vividly remember only two sessions that were not well liked by my fellow attendees.

One was a session on creating promos by Bobby Ocean, a session called Advanced Cat-Skinning. Bobby revealed some very specific techniques and ideas that he uses when he’s working on a station promo in this session. He did so while building a promo before our very ears (and eyes, since we were all in the conference room with him) and I think a lot of folks didn’t understand that he was showing us how he goes about solving challenges. It wasn’t about that specific promo, it was about the principles he was teaching us.

The second session was by Joe Sugarman, one of the most successful direct marketers in history. How successful? He lives in a custom home on Maui. During his session, he spoke about many of the techniques he had learned in 30 years of direct marketing about adapting and focusing the copy in his ads to make them more and more successful. Then, in the middle of his session, he demonstrated the very process about which he was talking, by selling us some of his products. That is, he refined his pitch, his offer, and his language as he was offering to us a chance to buy some of his books. As I watched this unfold, I could hear a kind of angry murmur start up among some of those around me, people taking offense at being pitched to buy some books in the middle of this guy’s presentation. What did I think? I thought, here’s a guy willing to sell me a significant part of his hard earned knowledge about how to write advertising copy more effectively, and he’s come down to $100.00. Are you kidding? I got out my checkbook and paid for the books on the spot. It was the cheapest price I’ve ever paid for such valuable information. (And, by the way, much of Joe’s wisdom is distilled in his book Triggers, available for much less than $100.00.)

Look, I’m not perfect at this either; but if we’re paying attention, the opportunities to learn, to grown, to become much more successful than we are, they’re all around us. They’re happening every day. And one of those opportunities is sitting right here on the Internet in the archives of The Actors Voice. Happy reading. (updated to correct verb/subject mismatch)

And Bonnie, thank you again for your kindness.

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Worth your time to read

Blogging, Career Advice, People

Since I started this voice-over blog in May of 2005, I’ve been trying to find as many other folks who blog about voice-over as I can. One such blog I found the other day is called MCM Voices Voiceover Blog. It’s written by a voice talent named Mary C. McKitrick.
As I was reading some of her recent posts, I saw one that I thought especially worth your time. Mary comments about something I’ve posted about a few times, competition. In her case she’s writing specifically about competition for animation roles. I hope you’ll read the whole thing, but here’s the key point:

Voice actors grumble a lot about the celebrity craze. Celebrities get the big parts in the animated feature films and the “real” voice actors get Townspersons 1-20. I don’t exactly think that celebrities are taking roles away from me. These are not huge numbers of roles, compared to what else is out there in the universe of roles. Plus, I’m not yet so well established as a character voice actor that I can think that way, and even if I were, it would still be a losing battle. The movie moguls want celebrities, they’re going to hire ‘em and there’s nothing anybody can do about it.

Very well put, Mary. And as I said, the entire post is well worth your time.
And when you’re done with that post, don’t miss what Mary has written here, driving the point home even more clearly. I’ve walked that same path Mary, and don’t regret giving those recommendations. That’s why there are a number of links here on the left to other male voice-over talents.
By the way, if you know of someone else blogging about voice-over, leave a link in a comment here or email me a link.

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The intersection of being talented and being nice

Blogging, Career Advice, People

Maybe “nice” isn’t quite the right word. Kindness, generosity, words like that apply to many people in the voice-over business, as I’ve noted previously, more than once.

For example, I posted a note about Dan Nachtrab the other day, after he left some kind words in the comments to one of my posts below. He in turn posted a thread on the Voice-Over Bulletin Board, pointing back to my post about him. See what I mean? A really nice thing to do.

Then there’s Allen Scofield, who has also left some kind comments to the same post where Dan commented. Another talented guy (don’t take my word for it, here’s his demo page) who is also truly nice.

And to cap it off, at least as regards this post, Pat Fraley has just joined the Voice-Over Bulletin Board and there’s a thread welcoming him. I posted a short welcome message on the second page of that thread and he was nice enough to write a kind word of reply.

I should hasten to add that this intersection was first explicity pointed out to me by another talented voice-over guy, Dave Christi.

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Here’s another guy who’s both talented and nice

Blogging, Career Advice, People

Dan Nachtrab left a comment to my post about VO-BB.com this evening, so I popped over to his site and his blog. Listen to his demos (he has a Flash site, so I can’t link directly to that page) and you’ll see what I mean about talented. Read his comment below and you’ll see what I mean about nice.

Dan’s also a guy who obviously understands you can never learn too much about voice-over. I agree completely. And while you’re reading his blog, be sure to scan down just a bit farther to this cogent post about finding success in the voice-over business. Whether you’ve ever worked at a radio station or not, you’ll profit from Dan’s excellent and insightful thoughts.

Good stuff, Dan. Thanks again for the kind comments.

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A don’t miss interview

Blogging, Career Advice, History, People

Joe Cipriano, as I’ve mentioned before is one of the major voice-over talents. If you’ve listened to network television anytime in the last 10 to 15 years, you’ve heard his voice at least hundreds, more likely thousands of times. He blogs here.

I met Joe in 1997 when he was on a panel discussion about working full time in voice-over at The Second Annual International Radio Creative and Production Summit. It was a panel featuring Joe, the late, great Danny Dark, John Leader and Bobby Ocean. An incredible time that’s available in Dan O’Day’s catalog. And speaking of John Leader, he’s part of this fabulous little video featuring Don LaFontaine and four other guys, including John.


Getting back to the point of this post, all four of the guys at the Summit (John, Danny, Bobby and Joe) were simply wonderful, very down-to-earth, and easy to talk with.

Which leads me to this

      amazing audio file
hosted on Joe’s main web site, an hour of the Jim Bohannon show about the book Secrets of Voice-Over Success.

By the way, the best parts of the interview are the bits of “behind the scenes” stuff you hear while the network commercials are running. Not “G” rated, but very funny.

UPDATE: I neglected to mention thanks to my friend Charlie Glaize for emailing me the link to the audio file.

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Help remove any bloat from Voices.com

Blogging, Career Advice, General

At Vox Daily, the voice-over blog of Voices.com, David and Stephanie are asking for input not just on what to add; but equally importantly on what to remove. I’ve added my two cents. I encourage you to do the same.

The relevant post and comments are here.

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Voice-over Bulletin Board

Blogging, Career Advice, General

While exploring this morning, I found a link to a place on the Net called VO-BB.COM. (update: fixed typo) It’s a Bulletin Board started in 2004. There are about 300 members and as I type this, I’m the newest. (Update: Not anymore.)
Lots of interesting stuff to read. Too much to get into today. But, I will be reading through lots of this material in the coming weeks.

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Other voices

Blogging, Career Advice, People

I found a link to Ron Harper’s voice-over blog through comments he’s left at the Voices.com blog Vox Daily.

As I read Ron’s comments, I was especially delighted by his thoughts in a post titled Other Voices. I’ve written previously that I don’t see this voice-over business as one in which I’m competing with other people for jobs. I audition for prospective clients so they can select the right voice or voices for their projects. Sometimes I’m right for the job. Sometimes I’m not.

Ron puts it this way:

Radio commercials, online training courses, movie trailers…I never know what kinds of jobs each day will bring. But that’s part of the magic of this profession. And there are times when -hold on to your seats now- I’m not the right voice for the project.

Exactly.

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Exciting things are happening at Voices.com

Blogging, Career Advice, General

At Vox Daily, the voice-over blog at Voices.com, you’ll find a post listing the top 10 features they’ve been asked to add or change about their service as they prepare to roll-out their transition from InteractiveVoices.com to their new identity as Voices.com. (update: spelling correction)
I’ve added my comments and recommend that if you are a member there now or even if you’re just thinking about a membership with Voices.com, you jump into the discussion.

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Excellent blogging tips

Blogging

Sister Toldjah wrote up a bunch of excellent blogging tips in September 2005. (hat tip to Instapundit). Since Glenn’s link to her post, she’s written up some additional thoughts here (scroll down).

This is why I blog about voice-over and very little else, because it’s what I want to write about.

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Voices.com suggested rate sheet (updated)

Blogging, Career Advice

Voices.com, as I noted yesterday, has been working on a new sheet of suggested voice-over rates via their blog Vox Daily. The new sheet has just been posted. You can download it via a link in this post.

I agree with the comment that the rate for narration and multi-media recording is too low; but as it stated very clearly in Stephanie’s post and on the sheet itself, talent are free to set their own rates.

As Stephanie notes in her comment, the Voices.com team has updated their rate sheet to better reflect a professional rate for non-broadcast work. You can get the updated rate sheet and read all of the comments at this post on their Vox Daily blog.

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Rate survey at Voices.com

Blogging, Career Advice

If you’d like to help Voices.com compile a list of suggested rates for their clients, check out this post on their blog and add your comment. I’ve just added mine.

I suspect this might be a somewhat frustrating excercise for Stephanie, since what she hoped to get was a number of specific numbers (the rates people are actually charging) that she could then average to compile her suggested rates.

But, and this is just my guess, I think there are a number of folks commenting who don’t want to be specific about how much they charge. If you look at my post, you’ll see specific rates and yes, they are real. (But, as I’m typing this I just realized I neglected to note those are the national rates. Local and regional are lower, of course; as are limited runs.)

As I’ve written previously, there’s enough voice-over work for everyone. Sometimes I win the audition. Sometimes I don’t. But, you have to want to audition if you’re going to be successful as a voice-over talent. Auditioning is our job, or at least 90% (or more) of it. The paying jobs are just the frosting, the fun parts. And of course, the parts that allow us to keep at it.

So, if you do visit the linked blog post and add a comment, I hope you’ll post honestly and specifically.

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More nice people

Blogging, People

I posted here a few days ago about the release of the latest podcast based on the “bridges” publication (currently Vol. 10) from the Office of Science and Technology of the Embassy of Austria.

Today, because I had to make a trip to that part of the country for other work, I made a stop at the Austrian Embassy in Washington, DC so that I could meet the staff of the OST in person. It was a genuinely delightful visit with some very nice people, many of whom are noted here.

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If you teach or coach voice-over talent

Blogging, Career Advice

If you teach or coach voice-over talent, you ought to check out Stephanie’s latest post on Vox Daily, the voice-over blog at Voices.com.

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Vox Daily, the Voices.com blog

Blogging, Career Advice, General

As of yesterday, June 23, 2006 Vox Daily, the voice-over blog from Voices.com (formerly InteractiveVoices.com) has moved to its new and permanent home. Check it out. The site is very well designed and includes all of the posts and comments from the InteractiveVoices.com blog, searchable by keyword.

Comments are easier to leave, too. Check it out.

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Trade links with Voices.com

Blogging, General

Check out this post at the blog at InteractiveVoices.com (soon to be Voices.com) and exhange a link with them. I did and this is what their link will look like on your site:

Voice overs from Voices.com, the #1 voice marketplace.

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That huge sigh you heard today (updated)

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That was me. You see my web hosting provider, Powweb.com, is in the middle of migrating to a new server platform. And Monday was my migration day. I tested everything thoroughly, but when I flipped over to the new server, this blog ended up partially broken. Partially, because you could still see the current posts and all the links. But broken because you couldn’t leave or even look at a comment or any of the posts not displayed on the first page.

However, thanks to the great support forum at Powweb, I found the answer and we’re back.

(Update: I’ve now solved the remaining mystery, about why Day By Day wasn’t displaying. It was a different, but related problem involving the new server configuration.)

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It’s always nice to meet talented people

Blogging, Career Advice, People

Today, Karen Commins left some kind words in a comment. So, I immediately checked out her website and her blog. Karen is a talented lady and I’m sure will continue to do well in this crazy business we call voice-over.

We’re both going to the audiobook Master Class with Pat Fraley in Hollywood, but she’s attending the Sunday session on June 18th and I’ll be there on Saturday, June 17th. I’m sure we’ll compare notes afterward. Some of that note comparing will, no doubt, make its way here. Something to look forward to.

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Comments are back (updated)

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Thanks to a brilliant plug-in called Akismet, I’m turning comments back on. The most recent dozen or so posts are already returned to a comments active state, and as time permits over the next few days I’ll re-active the rest.

That is all. Carry on.

(update) All messages should now allow legitimate comments. If you find one that doesn’t please post a comment here and I’ll fix it.

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If you manage your own website

Blogging, General, Tools

If you manage your own website, I recommend CoffeeCup Software. I’ve paid for and use their tools. Right now, CoffeeCup Software is celebrating their Tenth Anniversary by giving away 10 diamonds, one to each of 10 randomly selected customers. Read the details here. Then go here to buy their software on CD.

And, if you end up winning one of the diamonds, I hope you’ll write and let me know.

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