Pat Fraley offers a superb tip at the Voiceover Bulletin Board. It’s a way to give yourself a leg up that is sheer genius. The thread is called “Getting a 50% edge in an audition.”
Go, read, be amazed.
Pat Fraley offers a superb tip at the Voiceover Bulletin Board. It’s a way to give yourself a leg up that is sheer genius. The thread is called “Getting a 50% edge in an audition.”
Go, read, be amazed.
My friend Mary C. McKitrick shares this riviting tale on her blog about traveling into New York City for an audition. Since I don’t have a Blogger account, I can’t leave a comment on her blog, but I’m glad she’s OK. And I hope she gets cast from the audition. That would be very cool.
Update: It turns out that Mary’s account allows comments from people without Blogger accounts, so I’ve left a comment there after all.
(edited to add a link to Mary’s blog, and the update)
Career Advice, General, Getting started in Voiceover, People
If you’ve read any significant number of my archived posts, you’ve noticed that I think very highly of Pat Fraley as a voiceover coach. In fact, he and Dick Orkin have been the two teachers with the greatest influence on my voiceover work. (Not that I’m worthy to even carry the shoes of either of these guys, but I am deeply grateful for what they’ve taught me.)
So, what was the cool thing? Susan Berkley, by all that I’ve heard a very fine teacher and voiceover talent herself, sent me an email asking if she could use a quote from me about Pat; as part of her promotion of an upcoming Audiobook Master Class with Pat to be held in New York in early November.
Well of course, I said, “Yes!” and thanked her. I also recorded a copy of my comments and sent them to her in case she wants to use the audio on her site as well as the text.
Now, I haven’t studied with Susan, but as I said, she has a very good reputation. And Pat is one of the real masters in not only delivering the goods himself in the studio, but also in teaching others how to develop. If you live on the East Coast and you’ve wanted to study with Pat Fraley, and especially if you’re interested in pursuing audiobook narrations, this is a great opportunity. Click here for the information page about the class.
Oh, the quote?
The Audiobook Master Class presented by Pat Fraley was everything I hoped it would be and more. It was really 3 master classes in one. Having now attended three training events with Pat Fraley, I strongly recommend you jump at your next chance to take one of his classes. The price of the event was worth every penny based what I learned. I’ve just been signed by an audiobook publisher (science fiction, one of my personal favorite genres) and I completed my first project for them last night.
Bob Souer, Voice Over Talent, Charlotte, NC
(edited to fix typos and updated with the link to Susan’s Audiobook class page)
Joe Cipriano blogs here. From time to time he also posts video on his site, as I’ve mentioned before. And, his post of August 31st gives you a chance to watch from the voiceover booth of an awards show, specifically the 2006 Primetime Emmy Awards.
Watch and enjoy.
And thanks to by buddy Charlie Glaize for tipping me to Joe’s post.
I believe one’s voiceover work can improve signicantly by writing. I suppose this blog is an attempt, at least at one level, to test that theory since I do spend a fair amont of time writing here.
But the real purpose of this post is to point you to an article by Peter Drew that’s he’s posted here. Good thoughts, which are well worth a few minutes of your time.
to David Houston for his very kind comments on his voiceover blog called “Do That Voice,” about me and this blog. Thank you David. Much continued success to you.
But only at the end, so let me highlight that Dan Nachtrab has a blog. While it’s not updated every day, he was kind enough to post about his inteview here, as well as link to a couple of others among my favorite voiceover people.
Thanks, for the post, Dan. I wish you much continued success.
TV Squad is a blog about television. Richard Keller posted some fascinating video from a session for the series Family Guy there in a post on July 14th and I just stumbled across it today.
Check it out.
Among the many people profiled at the Academy of Achievement site is James Earl Jones. Enjoy. A thanks goes to Anthony for his post on the Voiceover Bulletin Board that pointed me to this site.)
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This post is the second of what I hope to be a significant number of interviews with people I think you need to meet, and who have valuable and important advice and comments.
We’re talking this time with Dan Nachtrab because he has a real handle on the business side of this business. In addition he’s a very talented guy (you can listen to his demos here to see what I mean), but if you haven’t picked up on this yet; while voiceover can be a hobby for a long time; if you’re going to pursue it as a career, you have to look at it as the business it is. As you’ll see, Dan has some worthwhile insights.
My first question for Dan: Compared to what you thought it would be like, what has been the most unexpected aspect of being a voiceover talent?
Dan: A while back my father shared a thought with me. “One day,†he said, “the business will overtake your art.†He was right. There are many steps in keeping your business in line. I had to stop treating VO as a hobby and push myself to make it my business.
My second question for Dan: Why do you pursue voiceover work rather than something else? Have you at times in the past? If so, what?
Dan: Why does a fish swim? I truly believe, in my heart, I was born for this line of work. Even when I strayed from the VO path and accepted a couple “real†jobs, like selling copiers, I kept my foot in the “VO door.†A gig here, a gig there. The best part about the sales job was that I learned how to communicate with all types of people and cold call prospective clients. That experience helped me immensely in pursuing voiceover.
My third question: What was the sequence that led to your concentration on voiceover now? What precipitated the change?
Dan: First, let me say this: Every time I crack open the mic, I try to better myself from the last time. There is never a throwaway line for me. So, I guess I can say I have always concentrated on VO. It is an art, and I will always be a student.
Now, on to how I got to where I am now…
After the sales job, I tried my hand at radio management. I was promoted five times in three and a half years from weekend talk show host to assistant program director for three stations to marketing director. I was educated in organization, management of personnel and marketing. During that time, I had acquired a few large voiceover clients. Soon after, radio and I parted ways, and the voiceover business became my “bread and butter.†All of the skills I used while in management, I use everyday in VO.
Believe it or not, the fantastic people at VO-BB.COM gave me the confidence to make the jump. I answered “yes†to five of the six questions Frank Frederick posted (in the linked thread) and knew it was time.
My fourth question: How do you deal with rejection?
Dan: I don’t. First rule in acting is to audition and then forget the audition ever took place. If you get the call back, great! If you don’t, you will not be devastated about not getting the gig. Auditioning is serious business. Some say it is the business. If you can’t handle yourself in a professional manner while under pressure to perform, if you can’t take criticism or direction, or if you get upset when someone doesn’t like your voice, then you shouldn’t be in this business.
My fifth question: Taking the other side of my first question, what (if anything) has turned out to be most like your expectations, going in?
Dan: Chicks dig it. Seriously, my wife and daughter couldn’t be more proud. They often wake up and see the old man sitting in his underwear cutting a narration for the United States Department of Defense. It is a pretty sight.
My sixth question: To the degree that you’re comfortable, describe your process of finding work? Are there things you concentrate on? What works better than others? What are you not going to repeat?
Dan: Right now, having three agents helps a lot. Also, whenever I have a client with whom I really get along, I will simply ask if they know anyone who may need my services. Most likely they do and they provide their names and numbers. The great thing about this tactic is that you have an immediate reference from your current client and an icebreaker with the new client. (I was taught this strategy while working in sales.)
In addition, I will not randomly mail out CD demos. A phone call to the prospective client can save you a lot of money and time. How can you otherwise guarantee that the agency deals with VO and isn’t merely a print agency?
My seventh question: Has anything memorably embarrassing ever happened to you in the booth? If so, what happened?
Dan: Nothing too embarrassing, per se. Although, a few laughs have been shared over jokes I wouldn’t repeat to my mother. (And no, I will not take a follow-up question.)
No problem, Dan. No follow-up is needed for that one!
My thanks to Dan Nachtrab for taking time from his busy schedule to answer all of these questions. There’s a link to Dan’s main site above (as well as on my voiceover blogroll to the left), and to his blog about voiceover here.
Backstage.com has an interview with voiceover pro Terri Apple that’s well worth a few minutes of your time.
Bonnie Gillespie is a casting director (mainly for independent films) in Los Angeles. She also writes a must read column every Monday called The Actor’s Voice. Seriously, you should read her every Monday.
This week’s column is a case in point, and though she’s writing about auditioning for on camera work in film or television, the principles apply precisely the same way in the voiceover world.
You have to have the right character or voice for the part. You have to make the right choices about the way you approach the audition script. And you have to be committed to those choices. Exceptionally good stuff, Bonnie.
And yes, the previous post is also about Bonnie and her book, Self – Management for Actors. So, if you can afford a few bucks, buy her book; but even if you can’t read The Actor’s Voice, on-line.
How do you measure success? How do you know when you’ve “made it,” what ever “it” is? These are questions you have to face if you’re going to make a go at the voiceover business.
Drew Haldwall is a talented guy, not only in his voiceover work, but in other creative ways. He’s very gifted in wood craftsmanship. He tells me it’s the combination of work that he finds satisfying.
That’s what works for Drew. What about you? Leave me a comment, if you like. I’d love to hear your answer to that question.
Mary C. McKitrick has learned just how habit forming it is to study with the one and only Pat Fraley. Read about Mary’s latest encounter with Pat on her blog, here. I just wish I lived in New England so I could have fed my Pat habit, too.
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Gary Joy does an online radio show called “The Casting Couch Radio Show” and I think you ought to consider adding it to the places you visit and with which you stay up to date. Good stuff.
Career Advice, General, Getting started in Voiceover, People
Remember, we are also in sales is the title of a thread you need to read on the Voiceover Bulletin Board, especially the first post in the thread written by Dan Nachtrab. Not only is Dan a talented guy (listened to his demos, you’ll see what I mean) he’s also a really nice guy, as I’ve noted here previously.
I often mention and link to people here whom I admire for one reason or another. People like Charlie Glaize, Mary C. McKitrick, Philip Banks, Pat Fraley; and if you read through the archives of my posts long enough you’ll find others.
Why do I admire these folks? Because every one of them has something valuable to teach me and you. Actually, several valuable somethings.
So, then, the system mentioned in the title, as posted on the VO-BB.COM:
Pick up the phone and
Have an
Informal chat with someone who
Looks for voice overs.
Introduce yourself and ask friendly questions
Pay attention to the answers
Bring your web site into the conversation
Ask if they would like to receive a demo CD
Never ask for feedback if you do send one
Keep your interaction friendly
Say thank you for their time
(Philip concludes with this aside: Lucky for me no one believes that it works!)
(Update) Here is another pass by Mr. Banks at this information, from a slightly different point of view:
The quick start programme.
1 Get a list of around 100 telephone numbers of people who use voice overs.
2 Call them. Introduce yourself “Do you ever use freelance voice overs in your productions (assuming yes) Great! May I send you a demo CD? (do not pause) You’re allowed to say no by the way. That’s wonderful.” (Confirm details and say goodbye)
3 At the end of the phone session send the demo’s. Your target is to have sent 50 by the end of this exercise.
4 Give it a few days and then call again. Introduce yourself again. “I spoke to a few days ago and promised I’d send you my voice over demo and I’m just checking in with you to ensure it’s arrived safely”. DO not ask for feed back, do not ask for feed back. When they say yes and usually start to say “but I haven’t had chance to listen….”. Say clearly that you weren’t looking for feedback you were just checking it had arrived, say thanks again and add you look forward to hearing from them. You’re dying to ask for feedback aren’t you? Don’t you [edit] dare!!!
That’s it, end of process. After a few weeks and 50 demo’s if you have not had one person hire you it’s unlikely anyone ever will. If one person hires you that could be luck, if two people hire you then you’re onto something.
(edited to correct typos)
My friend, and a very talented voiceover guy, Charlie Glaize pointed me to an interesting Internet post the other day, an interview at Quick Stop Entertainment with Maurice LaMarche, professional voice actor.
I think you’ll find it well worth a few minutes of your time.
Brian Haymond, a very talented fellow voiceover guy, has just started a blog and his first post is well worth your time. Yes, you read that right. A first blog post that’s worth reading. I know. Doesn’t seem possible, but, it’s true. (Mine certainly isn’t. Sheesh.)
But, the main reason it’s worth your time is because in this post, Brian details how he made the leap from working for someone else full-time to doing voiceovers full-time.
(updated to fix typos)
I received an email this morning from Darrell MacInnis, with some questions I thought worth sharing here. (Note: I asked his permission before quoting him here.)
Bob.. recently discovered your website… informative and your blog.. entertaining. After 23 years of tv/radio news and public affairs… (and reduced to part time)… I’ve jumped into voiceovers. Just wanted to say keep up the great work… As a newcomer, competing in a worldwide marketplace for voice services I’m faced with a giant learning curve. People such as yourself, Peter Drew, Todd Schick, Connie Terwilliger, are appreciated! I’ve gathered so much useful information about putting my own voiceover service together from you folks. It’s true… those who are the most successful are the first to offer advice.
(To which I want to say: I’m not sure I belong in the same list as those talented folks, but let’s continue…)
(I hope I have half your success… so that I’ll have something to give back to others.)
My reply: Thank you for your very kind comments. I’m glad to know that my ramblings have been helpful to you. I’m confident that you will have something to give to others, and you may very well have far more than half my success.
I’ve listed myself under new talent on www.voiceoverdirectory.com and on www.commercialvoices.com.
I have enough opening budget left to list on one of the following two directories, voices123 or voices.com. Although I suspect in the end, I’ll list with both services…as I see you and many others have done.
My reply: I really like the folks at Voices.com (formerly InteractiveVoices.com). They are really decent people. Very responsive and helpful. But, I get far more work through Voice123.com. I’d suggest, since you have funds only to join one or the other, that you join Voice123.com and do the free listing for now with Voices.com. Once you’ve done some more work and can afford to join Voices.com, do so at the $100 level. This would be the most cost effective way to go, I think.
Keep in mind, as you’re reading this: Your Mileage May Vary. For you, it may be that joining any of the above mentioned services is a bad idea. Or, it might be one of the smartest things you’ve ever done. They’ve been excellent advertising investments for me, but you have to decide for yourself.